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Donald thinks Asbestos is 100% Safe. WIll you start using it?

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Donald thinks Asbestos is 100% Safe. WIll you start using it?
The Environmental Protection Agency will no longer evaluate asbestos in homes and businesses as a danger or health risk, as Newsweek reports. Scott Pruitt announced the decision last Friday under President Trump, who believes asbestos is “100 percent safe, once applied.”

According to the Abestos Nation Campaign, asbestos kills 12,000 to 15,000 Americans every year. Fifty-five countries have completely banned the use of asbestos in any case, including the United Kingdom, South Africa, Japan and so on, in spite of which the EPA decided it was no longer necessary to evaluate the health risks of this chemical. .

https://www.pastemagazine.com/articles/2018/06/the-epa-will-no-longer-evaluate-the-health-risks-o.html

DONALD TRUMP KILLING PEOPLE
Created: June 10, 2018
Totals: 7 votes, 66 comments
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Yes. I will use Asbestos because our dear leader says it's "OK"
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No...I choose science and will not
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Voted: No...I choose science and will not
A week and 4 days ago
Wouldn't you just know it. Another major Russian product.

Pics of The Day: The World's Largest Mine For Deadly Asbestos https://www.chem.info/article/2016/05/pics-day-worlds-largest-mine-deadly-asbestos .
Voted: Yes. I will use Asbestos because our dear leader says it's "OK"
A week and 4 days ago
and he is living testimony that asbestos is completely harmless

reply to: and he is living testimony that asbestos is completely harmless https://media.giphy.com/media/puK3pT4BbofsI/giphy.gif
A week and 3 days ago
WHERE ARE MY CONSERVATIVES?!?!?!?!
Voted: No...I choose science and will not
A week and 4 days ago
So where do they get their data to dispute years of research to the contrary.
reply to: So where do they get their data to dispute years of research to the contrary.
A week and 3 days ago
Tump knows better apparently. Waiting for the sites conservatives to explain Trumps reasoning
Voted: Yes. I will use Asbestos because our dear leader says it's "OK"
A week and 4 days ago
This is great! Rolling us back to life in the 1970s and 1980s... cancer rates be damned. Maybe we can repopulate all of Love Canal while we're at it!
reply to: This is great! Rolling us back to life in the 1970s and 1980s... cancer rates be damned. Maybe we can repopulate all of Love Canal while we're at it!
A week and 3 days ago
OMG I completely foprgot about that place and how horrible this was. Perhaps Trump can get it dirt cheap and build a hotel on the land?

For anyone not familiar with this place, check it out...
https://archive.epa.gov/epa/aboutepa/love-canal-tragedy.html
reply to: OMG I completely foprgot about that place and how horrible this was. Perhaps Trump can get it dirt cheap and build a hotel on the land? For anyone not familiar with this place, check it out... https://archive.epa.gov/epa/ab
Voted: Yes. I will use Asbestos because our dear leader says it's "OK"
A week and 3 days ago
Hahaha! Perfect place for a Trumpesque resort!!
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Voted: Yes. I will use Asbestos because our dear leader says it's "OK"
A week and 4 days ago
Maybe we can start smoking in restaurants again.
reply to: Maybe we can start smoking in restaurants again.
A week and 3 days ago
Or in Hospital waiting rooms
reply to: Or in Hospital waiting rooms
Voted: No...I choose science and will not
A week and 3 days ago
Or airplanes
reply to: Or airplanes
A week and 3 days ago
OMG. LOL I forgot about that.
A week and 3 days ago
Conspicuously missing from this post...conservatives

Voted: No...I choose science and will not
A week and 3 days ago
My dad had esophogeal cancer. It is largely responsible dor his death. It was deemed asbestos in military housing and ships was partly responsible.

This is not a good plan.
reply to: My dad had esophogeal cancer. It is largely responsible dor his death. It was deemed asbestos in military housing and ships was partly responsible. This is not a good plan.
A week and 3 days ago
No...not at all.
reply to: My dad had esophogeal cancer. It is largely responsible dor his death. It was deemed asbestos in military housing and ships was partly responsible. This is not a good plan.
A week and 2 days ago
I agree, but lets not make this a political agenda, people woul dbe idiotic to say trump is bad for it, when democrats alike do the same. fluoride in water, or mercury/aluminum in vaccines are prime examples of things liberals are not only ok with but want to make mandatory for everyone
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A week and 3 days ago
Asbestos is like many other products, it has advantages that make it a good choice in some situations. It's incredibly fire resistant and I believe it's a good insulator as well. But like many things it needs to be respected. Fire is quite dangerous to, but I don't see anyone suggesting we get rid of that. Tons of household chemicals comma Etc. There is danger everywhere and asbestos is no different. There's nothing wrong with using it, as long as it's used properly.

As for current asbestos that's already in schools and businesses, the vast majority of it, I remember the number 98% but I could be wrong is not the super dangerous kill you at all costs kind of asbestos. So I think this is, accurately, another one of those things is put out as a scare tactic. Naturally the lawyers love it. And anybody that worked in the military or in shipyards or manufacturing of a stuff of course I was at a very high risk. I wouldn't want to work in a manufacturer that creates vinyl a plastic either for that matter.

So really, this is just another issue to Hype up for the Trump haters.
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reply to: Asbestos is like many other products, it has advantages that make it a good choice in some situations. It's incredibly fire resistant and I believe it's a good insulator as well. But like many things it needs to be respected.
A week and 3 days ago
I was waiting for someone to come along and defend Trump's position. He was right. If he shot someone, you people would defend him

Asbestos is outright banned in over 50 countries and in the US, it still kill many thousands annually and those are the people that die. Asebestos is so dangerous that it should never be used in a residential situation or in an area frequented byu the public like schools, etc. It should be removed and properly disposed of. Yes, it was an excellent fire retardent, bu incredible dangerous. DDT is also an incredible efficient pest control but we still no longer use it.

See what you;re doing here?
"So really, this is just another issue to Hype up for the Trump haters."
You are blindly allowing Trump to lead you bvy the nose, using his exact words and those f his minions, refusing to acknowledge that He may be wrong and automatically dismissing his critics. That's sad, Zomibe. WTF?
Are you really that gullible?

AND LET"S BE CLEAR:
Trump wants to loosen controls of Asbestos
reply to: Asbestos is like many other products, it has advantages that make it a good choice in some situations. It's incredibly fire resistant and I believe it's a good insulator as well. But like many things it needs to be respected.
Voted: No...I choose science and will not
A week and 3 days ago
I am absolutely stunned. Asbestos helped killed my father. FACT. All your pretty words does not change that. And not just my father but thousands others. It is not safe.
reply to: Asbestos is like many other products, it has advantages that make it a good choice in some situations. It's incredibly fire resistant and I believe it's a good insulator as well. But like many things it needs to be respected.
A week and 3 days ago
You have point to an extent. There are products that have asbestos on that are pretty safe. Old vinyl tiles being an example. The asbestos is pretty much locked into it and presents no real danger in a building. However,that changes when the material is being cute or sawn, It also creates a problem.when it comes time for demolition. Combine that with the fact that the manufacture, mining, transportation, and disposals results in tons of exposure and environmental asbestos dust in the air and water. We have so many other options for for retardation it just doesn'remake sense to use it anymore even though some safe products can be made from it.
reply to: I was waiting for someone to come along and defend Trump's position. He was right. If he shot someone, you people would defend him Asbestos is outright banned in over 50 countries and in the US, it still kill many thousands
A week and 3 days ago
Not at all. I'm not blindly following anyting in fact it is you on the left that blindly criticize Trump for everything. Look at the last Joe bunting post something about Trump and Kim being 3 miles from each other and that's a PR move. WTH? Would 1 mile have been better, or 12 miles? It has reached the point of ridiculousness on the left.

My only point was that there are other factors, and there always are. The EPA is still regulating where asbestos can be used in new installations. That doesn't change it is only how they review existing installations. Personally, I'd like to see, from a reputable source, what the danger from this decision could cause. How many additional sicknesses or deaths that could have been avoided. My guess is that the answer is very close to zero. There is nothing wrong with using dangerous things. As I said in my previous comment, we do it all the time, bleach ammonia vinyl fire any of these things used incorrectly are life threatening. I don't have time to research, but how many children die from poisoning from household chemicals? I'm guessing the numbers into different than what we see from asbestos.
reply to: Not at all. I'm not blindly following anyting in fact it is you on the left that blindly criticize Trump for everything. Look at the last Joe bunting post something about Trump and Kim being 3 miles from each other and that's
A week and 3 days ago
My guess is that you don't have a problem with smoking while holding a baby as long as you don't blow the smoke in it's face or drop ashes on it.
I don't care wtf Bunting posted...
There is plenty wrong with using dangerous things (like asbestos) and there has been plenty of information regarding it from reputabe sources throughout the years. That is why it is heavily regulated and monitored.

I'm surprised that you care so much about unborn fetuses and homosexuals in society, yet you care very little about people (including your own family and friends) exposure to a toxic element which causes Asbestosis, Lung Cancer, Mesothelioma, and a host of other cancers.

Being partison at the risk of others health is totally unacaptable.
reply to: My guess is that you don't have a problem with smoking while holding a baby as long as you don't blow the smoke in it's face or drop ashes on it. I don't care wtf Bunting posted... There is plenty wrong with using dangerous
A week and 3 days ago
Blowing smoke in a baby's face would not be considered responsible use of a cigarette. I'm just saying that you can take a dangerous chemical and use it responsibly. We do it all the time.
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reply to: Blowing smoke in a baby's face would not be considered responsible use of a cigarette. I'm just saying that you can take a dangerous chemical and use it responsibly. We do it all the time.
A week and 3 days ago
Yes..but Asbestos is a totally different animal. Why risk it when there are other options?
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reply to: Not at all. I'm not blindly following anyting in fact it is you on the left that blindly criticize Trump for everything. Look at the last Joe bunting post something about Trump and Kim being 3 miles from each other and that's
A week and 2 days ago
lot of stupid BS the left says against trump, but why defend a toxic chemical because a president is ok with it?

if EPA is anything like FDA or any other government agency like it, i would not trust what they say regardless of which party is in power. they only care for the all mighty dollar, your health is the last thing on their minds if at all
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reply to: I am absolutely stunned. Asbestos helped killed my father. FACT. All your pretty words does not change that. And not just my father but thousands others. It is not safe.
A week and 2 days ago
I have to agree with you, I have a similar story except not with asbestos but with a vaccine, my grandfather was 100% healthy, he decided to take the H1N1 vaccine to protect his wife and others around him. he was in hospital 2 days later, and sadly passed away two weeks after, all from a vaccines the left want law that we take. any time government supports a product or tries to tell us what to use, we must be cautious.
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reply to: You have point to an extent. There are products that have asbestos on that are pretty safe. Old vinyl tiles being an example. The asbestos is pretty much locked into it and presents no real danger in a building. However,th
A week and 3 days ago
"We have so many other options for for retardation"

I dont see any reason to start name-calling. :)
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A week and 3 days ago
In my state, homeowners are allowed to remove and throwout asbestos shingles from their house in regular garbage. No permits no special licenses Nothing. If you're a licensed contractor you can't do that. But homeowners can. Doesn't that tell you something about the money end of this?
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reply to: In my state, homeowners are allowed to remove and throwout asbestos shingles from their house in regular garbage. No permits no special licenses Nothing. If you're a licensed contractor you can't do that. But homeowners can.
A week and 3 days ago
It means the same in my state too but there are guidlines. All material has to be clearly labeled, wrapped, and dumped in a secure location. There is also a disposal fee.

The extent in which asbestos was used is astronomical. Controls are necessary

Yeah..It tells me that your state legislatures are ****ing bought & paid for.
reply to: In my state, homeowners are allowed to remove and throwout asbestos shingles from their house in regular garbage. No permits no special licenses Nothing. If you're a licensed contractor you can't do that. But homeowners can.
A week and 3 days ago
That's not because it is a safe product, it's because people need and have a right to repair their homes themselves.
reply to: It means the same in my state too but there are guidlines. All material has to be clearly labeled, wrapped, and dumped in a secure location. There is also a disposal fee. The extent in which asbestos was used is astronomical
A week and 3 days ago
Exactly. That's why it's always prudent to look at it from that angle. You may have a bias and not even realize it.
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reply to: Exactly. That's why it's always prudent to look at it from that angle. You may have a bias and not even realize it.
A week and 2 days ago
everyone has a bias. to say someone shouldn;t be bias is in itself a biased opinion.
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reply to: It means the same in my state too but there are guidlines. All material has to be clearly labeled, wrapped, and dumped in a secure location. There is also a disposal fee. The extent in which asbestos was used is astronomical
A week and 2 days ago
yes this is whats wrong with socialism/corporatism/communism, its all paid for. time we embraced individualism again,
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reply to: That's not because it is a safe product, it's because people need and have a right to repair their homes themselves.
A week and 3 days ago
I can't do my own electric, or plumbing for a new bathroom.
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reply to: I can't do my own electric, or plumbing for a new bathroom.
A week and 3 days ago
Not every state/town/city let's you do that...

My town let's me pretty much do whatever I want. For goddsakes, we don't have a Police Department. lol

But..there are two things we may not do; Natural/Propane gas plumbing and Septic design. We can do our own septic/leech fields with an approved design. In NH, only the homeowner can do electrical in his own property without a license (rental or commercial alro requires a license regardless)
reply to: I can't do my own electric, or plumbing for a new bathroom.
A week and 3 days ago
Um actually you can.
reply to: Um actually you can.
A week and 2 days ago
Hm..So I will defer to you regarding NY laws since you seem do usually have the correct answer for many a things concerning that state
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reply to: Hm..So I will defer to you regarding NY laws since you seem do usually have the correct answer for many a things concerning that state
A week and 2 days ago
Well actually my point is they can't really stop you. I once lived in a county that said one needed a permit to replace a hot water tank. LMAO, what kind of sucker would pay for that permit? Just do it, do it right, and no one one will know.. It's stupid to pay for a.permit to fix your own **** inside.
reply to: Well actually my point is they can't really stop you. I once lived in a county that said one needed a permit to replace a hot water tank. LMAO, what kind of sucker would pay for that permit? Just do it, do it right, and n
A week and 2 days ago
I've found that there are many times when requirments are set at a very local level, like town & City RSAs. Having been involved with small town governement, I've seen these for myself. States or feds sometimes have their rules written where it says "In absence of local (rules & regulations" etc. etc.)"
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reply to: That's not because it is a safe product, it's because people need and have a right to repair their homes themselves.
A week and 3 days ago
Yes.
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A week and 3 days ago
I'll be very honest. I don't even know what this decision means. The EPA will no longer review existing installations of asbestos? What does that even mean? Don't places that have asbestos already know it? Certainly every school Hospital Library, Etc must know by now I have a feeling I'm missing something, so if anyone can explain to me, please do. About what this actually means to. peoples health. I mean, if the asbestos is already in place, it's not like the EPA is taking money away or not allowing people to remove it, are they?

I would agree with zombie on the point of seeing what the impact of this would be. Could it be a regulation that really has no discernible effect? Let's find out.
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reply to: I'll be very honest. I don't even know what this decision means. The EPA will no longer review existing installations of asbestos? What does that even mean? Don't places that have asbestos already know it? Certainly every sch
A week and 3 days ago
you can take the responsibility of exposing your children, family, and friends to an unnecessary risk.
A week and 3 days ago
Im being serious when I say I dont understand it. I have no doubt that asbestos exposure is serious business but what does this mean:

"The EPA will no longer evaluate asbestos in homes and businesses as a danger or health risk"

What does this mean, in practical terms? If someone calls the EPA and says "I think I have asbestos in my house, what do I do?" that they will say, "dont worry, its safe" ? Or will they refuse to send someone to evaluate whether it is asbestos or not? Or do they just stop giving out fines for businesses that have it?

I really have no idea what the impact of this is. And my guess is that there are many in the same boat but wont admit it.
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Voted: No...I choose science and will not
A week and 3 days ago
Trump's EPA is a very bad joke, obviously. That has been clear from the beginning, when he chose Scott Pruitt to head the agency. It has also been clear since before he was elected, that Trump doesn't give a damn about environmental issues, or even "**the American people's**" healthcare issues.

My only sibling died of lung cancer 2 years ago. He spent 5 years on an aircraft carrier, the USS Enterprise....an old one. Navy veterans develop various forms of cancer at a greater rate than average, which has been attributed to the preponderance of asbestos used in the infrastructure of Navy vessels. Probably just a coincidence.....
reply to: Trump's EPA is a very bad joke, obviously. That has been clear from the beginning, when he chose Scott Pruitt to head the agency. It has also been clear since before he was elected, that Trump doesn't give a damn about en
Voted: No...I choose science and will not
A week and 3 days ago
My father was also on the Enterprise.
reply to: Trump's EPA is a very bad joke, obviously. That has been clear from the beginning, when he chose Scott Pruitt to head the agency. It has also been clear since before he was elected, that Trump doesn't give a damn about en
A week and 3 days ago
Oh Piper..sorry to hear about your brother. That is terrible.
Thank you for responding to my post and...

Good to see you here!
reply to: Trump's EPA is a very bad joke, obviously. That has been clear from the beginning, when he chose Scott Pruitt to head the agency. It has also been clear since before he was elected, that Trump doesn't give a damn about en
A week and 2 days ago
thats what they always say, when someone gets autism or dies from a vaccines, they say "just coincidence" or "no evidence" it is all about that all mighty dollar, EPA FDA, medical. under republicans or democrats it makes no dang difference, the bottom line is money, your health is not even on their minds, or if it is, its the last topic of discussion and its probably just a joke line.
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reply to: My father was also on the Enterprise.
Voted: No...I choose science and will not
A week and 3 days ago
I'm sorry about your father, Mel.
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reply to: I'm sorry about your father, Mel.
Voted: No...I choose science and will not
A week and 3 days ago
Thanks Piper and I am sorry about your Brother.
reply to: Oh Piper..sorry to hear about your brother. That is terrible. Thank you for responding to my post and... Good to see you here!
Voted: No...I choose science and will not
A week and 3 days ago
Thanks, JudasGoat.
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reply to: thats what they always say, when someone gets autism or dies from a vaccines, they say "just coincidence" or "no evidence" it is all about that all mighty dollar, EPA FDA, medical. under republicans or democrats it makes no d
Voted: No...I choose science and will not
A week and 2 days ago
Some "theys" certainly do say that. In this case, the coincidence part was not meant to be taken seriously.....
A week and 3 days ago
I still don't understand the ramifications of this. Can anyone explain? Anyone that is so vehemently opposed to it. I mean, is it possible that there will be no impact to anyone's health because of this? Before this, when the EPA was still "evaluating asbestos in homes and businesses", did that save lives?

If not, then let's be honest, this IS Trump bashing. I'm not saying it is or isn't. But if you are like me, and don't really fully understand, but are livid, does that make sense?

or am I really the only one that doesn't fully get it. Damn, that will be embarrassing.
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reply to: I still don't understand the ramifications of this. Can anyone explain? Anyone that is so vehemently opposed to it. I mean, is it possible that there will be no impact to anyone's health because of this? Before this, when the
A week and 2 days ago
before chemicals, and toxic food and very toxic ingredients in medical stuff, people lived healthier lives, have you noticed cancer rates? its at record highs and rising at terrifying levels, 1 in 2 people getting cancer is insane. lets not defend all these chemicals, to hell with what FDA, EPA or anything the government says, your health is not their interest. money is
reply to: before chemicals, and toxic food and very toxic ingredients in medical stuff, people lived healthier lives, have you noticed cancer rates? its at record highs and rising at terrifying levels, 1 in 2 people getting cancer is i
A week and 2 days ago
Well, two things. First, yes cancer rates are rising. But if that's from the environment, which I don't doubt, although the fact that we are living longer also has a lot to do with that, but I'm not doubting the toxicity of everything in our lives. Just look at the food we eat everyday. That has a far far greater impact on our health and cancer then the chemicals we use or the asbestos we are exposed to. The plastic containers that we eat from, the household cleaners, the preservatives in food, the radio waves and the microwaves, pollution, sunscreens, wood finisher, we are literally bombarded with toxicity every second of our lives. Most of these things, even taken alone, are a bigger threat than asbestos. Cancer rates are rising, and what are the percentage of asbestos related cancer?

You say you don't trust the FDA or EPA or the government because our health is not their interest, money is. Fine. I don't disagree. But why did you trust him in the first place when they said they have to review and assess this stuff? If they're only in it for the money are they really being honest? Is what they are doing really good for us like they say? You're trusting them when you want to believe, but then distrusting when you don't want to believe.
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reply to: Well, two things. First, yes cancer rates are rising. But if that's from the environment, which I don't doubt, although the fact that we are living longer also has a lot to do with that, but I'm not doubting the toxicity of e
A week and 2 days ago
well mercury is toxic, and FDA EPA will tell you that, it doesn;t mean i trust them when i agree that its toxic, its toxic because its a known fact, regardless of what the government says. perhaps an independent test on asbestos would be best, but, reading other peoples comments on here, in regards to how it causes cancer and has caused cancer in their loved ones, i will say its not a safe product, and shouldn;t be used regardless of what EPA says
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reply to: before chemicals, and toxic food and very toxic ingredients in medical stuff, people lived healthier lives, have you noticed cancer rates? its at record highs and rising at terrifying levels, 1 in 2 people getting cancer is i
Voted: No...I choose science and will not
A week and 2 days ago
Eh.. I dont know about the healthier lives. Average life span.. has dramatically increased. Everybody talks about the "good old days" but the truth is.. those days-werent any better.. just a different set of problems.
reply to: Eh.. I dont know about the healthier lives. Average life span.. has dramatically increased. Everybody talks about the "good old days" but the truth is.. those days-werent any better.. just a different set of problems.
A week and 2 days ago
could you imagne the good old days with modern medicine and stuff that didn;t include all the chemicals?
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reply to: could you imagne the good old days with modern medicine and stuff that didn;t include all the chemicals?
Voted: No...I choose science and will not
A week and 2 days ago
Yeah. The good old day. When I couldnt have my own bank account, wear what I want.. have a career. Just grand.
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reply to: Yeah. The good old day. When I couldnt have my own bank account, wear what I want.. have a career. Just grand.
A week and a day ago
were we not talking health wise? at least i was.
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A week and 2 days ago
But we use chemicals all the time. For everyone to now pick asbestos as the one chemical to fight against seems a little strange, except that it goes against Trump.

I noticed that nobody has answered tommyb question. I'll admit I'm not quite sure what the ramifications are either. Are any of you willing to explain what it means before you criticize this decision? If you don't even know what the impact is how could you get so angry?
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reply to: But we use chemicals all the time. For everyone to now pick asbestos as the one chemical to fight against seems a little strange, except that it goes against Trump. I noticed that nobody has answered tommyb question. I'll ad
A week and 2 days ago
"If you don't even know what the impact is how could you get so angry?"

How about if we re-word this and say, "How can you be a cheerleader and say your *rar-ra's* for Trump if you don't know what the impact is?"

So..basicaly this is the easing of regulations for corporations so they may contaminate our environment: the EPA will be revising its method for determining health and safety risks associated with toxic chemicals.
These influence and impact the exposure in the workplace and general public to toxins such as Asbestos, which was mentioned directly by Trump.

And here we go once more, the fox in charge of the hen house...Two of the senior officials involved in this decision-making come directly from the chemical manufacturing industry. Nancy B. Beck, oversees the toxic chemical unit of the EPA, which was previously an executive at the American Chemistry Council (ACC), an industry lobby. Another is Erik Baptist is a , a former lawyer for the American Petroleum Institute, which lobbies for the oil and gas companies, many of which have chemical subsidiaries.

A little research on ones own makes a diff. Are you that awestruck and blinded by Trump's fabulousness that you fail to see a problem here?
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reply to: "If you don't even know what the impact is how could you get so angry?" How about if we re-word this and say, "How can you be a cheerleader and say your *rar-ra's* for Trump if you don't know what the impact is?" So..ba
A week and 2 days ago
You have it wrong. Its not cheeleading. In fact, the only cheeleading is from the anti-Trump crowd. If he does it, you hate it.

On my part at least, I am just wondering what the impact is.

"So..basicaly this is the easing of regulations for corporations so they may contaminate our environment"

This decision has no impact going forward, only on existing stuff.

"the EPA will be revising its method for determining health and safety risks associated with toxic chemicals. These influence and impact the exposure in the workplace and general public"

Sorry, maybe Im just dense, but I just dont get it. What, the EPA wont require safety warnings in areas where workers are exposed to asbestos? Is that the extent of the effect here?

Look, if the stuff is unsafe, by all means proper steps/care should be taken--by everyone and if that includes EPA involvement, fine. Im not saying right or wrong about that. All Im saying is it is very POSSIBLE that this decision has zero effect on anyone... and yet there is so much anger because it involves Trump and something bad like asbestos.

Trump could pass an executive order stating that the EPA has no power to stop delis from putting asbestos on peoples sandwiches. Its doubtful that would increase the number of asbestos sandwiches that are sold.

I dont think it would surprise anyone to hear that there are countless regulations, requiring govt involvement, that dont produce a net benefit. If that's the case, drop the regulation--but because it has no value. How do we know that is not simply a regulation with no value?
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reply to: You have it wrong. Its not cheeleading. In fact, the only cheeleading is from the anti-Trump crowd. If he does it, you hate it. On my part at least, I am just wondering what the impact is. "So..basicaly this is the easing
A week and 2 days ago
You;re conflating and trying to confuse the issue. Go ahead. Breath in asbetos and feed it to your kids for all I care.

Donald says it's good for you

and...

*No, I do not have it wrong*

You and Zombie blindly follow Trump like good little soldiers.

*"If you don't even know what the impact is how could you get so angry?*
If it looks like a cheerleader and smells like a cheerleader...
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reply to: You;re conflating and trying to confuse the issue. Go ahead. Breath in asbetos and feed it to your kids for all I care. Donald says it's good for you and... *No, I do not have it wrong* You and Zombie blindly follow Trump like good little soldiers. *"If you don't even know what the impact is how could you get so angry?* If it looks like a cheerleader and smells like a cheerleader...
A week and 2 days ago
Im not conflating or confusing anything. And Im certainly not cheerleading. I have probably said a half dozen times that I dont know. I just cant see what the impact of this decision means. But, not having a knee-jerk opposition is blindly following? Im not knee-jerk supporting OR opposing. My sense is that no one else on this post can really explain how this, in reality, will affect anyone. But they dont need to. Just say you hate Trump, and it pretty much covers every situation.

If the decision said that asbestos will now be allowed in new construction unregulated, I would oppose that. Its wrong. Or if it meant that special precautions or a license/permit is no longer needed when abating, I would oppose that.

But this says that the EPA "will no longer evaluate asbestos in homes and businesses as a danger or health risk" WTH does that mean? What will change, regarding asbestos, as a result?

I have a hard time getting worked up about something when I dont know the impact. But I guess not everyone has that problem.
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reply to: "If you don't even know what the impact is how could you get so angry?" How about if we re-word this and say, "How can you be a cheerleader and say your *rar-ra's* for Trump if you don't know what the impact is?" So..ba
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And as for the people involved, its no surprise that they have ties to "nefarious" organizations. Of course things like that will exist. They all run in the same circles and there is overlap for much of this stuff.

So its not surprising to find that the person that oversees the toxic chemical unit of the EPA previously worked at a chemical company. What talent pool would you expect to look in for someone to head a chemical unit? A computer programmer? A journalist? A community organizer?
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reply to: And as for the people involved, its no surprise that they have ties to "nefarious" organizations. Of course things like that will exist. They all run in the same circles and there is overlap for much of this stuff. So its no
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"Nefarious organizations like...

Russian Mobsters, Money launderers, Drug Cartels & Dealers...

I would expect a better pick than someone who was basically a lobbyist for the group who is being regulate. The term "Conflict of interest" means something in my world.
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