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Something I don't understand with people these days is how they think it is ok to state their 'opinions' on an issue without any support from articles, videos or anything. "Trump is bad!" Ok, cool that you think that, but why? How?

Let me give you an example. "Trump is, so far, a better president than Obama." Why? One supporting fact, Benghazi. Or have we all forgotten those left to die while Obama slept?

See, it's not that hard honestly. Give logic room to breath, don't just outright attack people without supporting your statement's.
Created: May 7, 2018
Totals: 10 votes, 52 comments
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I support what I have to say because I'm logical.
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Voted: I support what I have to say because I'm logical.
3 months ago
Great post.

Here's another. Trump is a better president because he spent his entire life embracing free markets and capitalism. While Obama spent his entire life embracing socialism.
reply to: Great post. Here's another. Trump is a better president because he spent his entire life embracing free markets and capitalism. While Obama spent his entire life embracing socialism.
3 months ago
Yeah, I like that one too. It's really not that hard.
reply to: Great post. Here's another. Trump is a better president because he spent his entire life embracing free markets and capitalism. While Obama spent his entire life embracing socialism.
Voted: I support what I have to say because I'm logical.
What's wrong with socialism? Jesus was a socialist
reply to: What's wrong with socialism? Jesus was a socialist
3 months ago
And he was brown Socialist, too!
reply to: And he was brown Socialist, too!
3 months ago
Doesn't look brown to me:

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reply to: Doesn't look brown to me: http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/662/285/da8.jpg
3 months ago
Based on where he was from "Jerusalem", he would have had an olive complexion and dark hair.
reply to: Doesn't look brown to me: http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/662/285/da8.jpg
3 months ago
That's Leonardo Davinci's gay crush, Cesare Borgia. Leonardo based the image of Christ on Cesare and it stuck.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Lb6oxl930rQ/TdyLEMvTnfI/AAAAAAAAARU/9SUKRBD-JR0/s1600/Cesare+Borgia.jpg

Pope Alexander VI didn;t like the "Jewiness" of the imnages of Christ previously so he asked Leo to make the change. Leo based the image of Christ for "The last Supper" on his favorite fap boy, Jesus.

Conservatives always trying to "re-imagine" history

Look it up
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reply to: What's wrong with socialism? Jesus was a socialist
3 months ago
Based on what? The fact that you just said that?
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reply to: What's wrong with socialism? Jesus was a socialist
3 months ago
The problem with socialism is everyone is equal. Well, no they aren't. Say you have two people. One went to school for many years to become a doctor, the other is a high school drop out who works for the city picking up garbage. Well, if they are equal, they make the same. This is not ok. School is costly and stressful, doctors deserve to make more. In the definition of socialism, it is the transitioning from capitalism to communism. That, in and of itself, makes it terrible. When the community owns everything, everyone stops working as hard to get what they want, because what's the point? If they are going to get what they want anyway, why bother with school? No more doctors, lawyers, etc. That is the problem with socialism. Lazy people should not have access to what those of us who work hard earn.
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reply to: The problem with socialism is everyone is equal. Well, no they aren't. Say you have two people. One went to school for many years to become a doctor, the other is a high school drop out who works for the city picking up garba
3 months ago
Tell it to Jesus. He was a socialist
reply to: Tell it to Jesus. He was a socialist
Voted: I support what I have to say because I'm logical.
3 months ago
No. Jesus was not political. He is above our petty BS.
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3 months ago
Seriously?
reply to: Seriously?
3 months ago
More jokingly than anything. I stopped taking things on the internet seriously when SH died.
3 months ago
o·pin·ion
əˈpinyən/
noun
a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
reply to: o·pin·ion əˈpinyən/ noun a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.
3 months ago
Yes, this I know. But when trying to discredit someone in the political field, facts to support opinions are necessary.
reply to: Yes, this I know. But when trying to discredit someone in the political field, facts to support opinions are necessary.
3 months ago
Opinions do not require fact or support, period. If one wishes to *prove* something, then yes, facts are required.
reply to: Opinions do not require fact or support, period. If one wishes to *prove* something, then yes, facts are required.
3 months ago
Then what's the point of talking politics at all if the only thing people do is belittle?
reply to: Then what's the point of talking politics at all if the only thing people do is belittle?
3 months ago
Belittling isn't the only thing people do when talking politics. Some people discuss, some debate, some belittle. The point varies with the individual.
reply to: Belittling isn't the only thing people do when talking politics. Some people discuss, some debate, some belittle. The point varies with the individual.
3 months ago
If all they do is state their opinion with no facts to boot, all it is is pointless belittling. And you can't have a debate with someone that bases everything off of only their opinion.
reply to: If all they do is state their opinion with no facts to boot, all it is is pointless belittling. And you can't have a debate with someone that bases everything off of only their opinion.
3 months ago
You have been responding to the *fact* I posted with your *opinions*.
reply to: You have been responding to the *fact* I posted with your *opinions*.
3 months ago
See, the difference is neither of us are trying to discredit anyone or any political ideal. All of this is the opinion that people who talk about politics should care enough to back their statements with some facts.
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reply to: See, the difference is neither of us are trying to discredit anyone or any political ideal. All of this is the opinion that people who talk about politics should care enough to back their statements with some facts.
3 months ago
Fact: opinions, political or otherwise, do not require a factual basis. If someone asserts something as factual, you can request proof, but you cannot make them provide it.
reply to: Fact: opinions, political or otherwise, do not require a factual basis. If someone asserts something as factual, you can request proof, but you cannot make them provide it.
3 months ago
All I'm saying is if someone wants to throw their 2 cents into politics, they should care enough to back what they say.
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reply to: All I'm saying is if someone wants to throw their 2 cents into politics, they should care enough to back what they say.
3 months ago
I got that. Again, my point was simply that opinions do not require a factual basis.
reply to: I got that. Again, my point was simply that opinions do not require a factual basis.
Voted: I support what I have to say because I'm logical.
3 months ago
Fact/opinion can be a grey area.

Sometimes I create my own facts. But I base that fact on my opinion.
reply to: Fact/opinion can be a grey area. Sometimes I create my own facts. But I base that fact on my opinion.
3 months ago
Alrighty then.
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reply to: Fact/opinion can be a grey area. Sometimes I create my own facts. But I base that fact on my opinion.
3 months ago
Haa!
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Voted: I support what I have to say because I'm logical.
3 months ago
Wow. Well that wasnt hypocrtical at all. You just complained about another's biased choices and then you post this?
reply to: Wow. Well that wasnt hypocrtical at all. You just complained about another's biased choices and then you post this?
3 months ago
Worth it! :) Also, I didn't complain. I said I loved the biased answers.
reply to: Wow. Well that wasnt hypocrtical at all. You just complained about another's biased choices and then you post this?
3 months ago
Watch this one Delicious, she's slippery. LOL
reply to: Worth it! :) Also, I didn't complain. I said I loved the biased answers.
Voted: I support what I have to say because I'm logical.
3 months ago
It read as sarcasm. Was it not meant to be?
reply to: It read as sarcasm. Was it not meant to be?
3 months ago
Eh, in a way I guess you could say. But not to a T, I like spreading the salt as much as the next person. And honestly, I have enough seriousness in my real life. I like to joke in my digital one. Don't take anything I say too seriously. I'm just here to talk, debate some, and make friends.
reply to: Watch this one Delicious, she's slippery. LOL
3 months ago
I'd say I've already slipped honestly.
Voted: I support what I have to say because I'm logical.
Oh where to begin with Trump as to why I dislike him... he's already been in office for a year and I'm not a fan at all.

To say that he's a better president than Obama with just one year in his first term is absurd. He's not even making a good first impression. What has he done of any relevance in his first year? Golfing, tweeting, going on vacation? The tweeting should scare everyone because if someone of relevance dare criticize him he must respond. He's the most thin skinned president in my lifetime and has the mentality of a thirteen year old girl on her period. Imagine if the man got his way. Our freedom of speech would be threatened.

Also, the lies and the broken promises. Where's that wall he wanted to build (which was an absurd idea anyway)? When's that trial for Hillary's crimes going to happen? Why is he revisiting the TPP? Let's be honest, that's the only good thing this buffoon has done in office and the main reason why many hard core Sanders supporters supported him over Hillary in the election. Now that he's in office he changed his mind?

"The economy is better under Trump"! Well, maybe. Though he's only been in office for one year. His "policies" if he even has any haven't come into full effect yet. So you really can't credit Trump for the economic improvement. It improved under Obama when he left office.

So yeah, I'm not a fan, never was a fan and he's giving me no reasons to become one. This is the best guy for the job?
reply to: Oh where to begin with Trump as to why I dislike him... he's already been in office for a year and I'm not a fan at all. To say that he's a better president than Obama with just one year in his first term is absurd. He's not
3 months ago
Well said!

reply to: Oh where to begin with Trump as to why I dislike him... he's already been in office for a year and I'm not a fan at all. To say that he's a better president than Obama with just one year in his first term is absurd. He's not
3 months ago
Hmm, maybe you should go and look up what he has accomplished. Straight from the white house itself, no biased mainstream media, fearmongering sources. Come back to me once you've done that.
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reply to: Oh where to begin with Trump as to why I dislike him... he's already been in office for a year and I'm not a fan at all. To say that he's a better president than Obama with just one year in his first term is absurd. He's not
3 months ago
But you see it missing the point. Your entire argument is based on the fact that you don't like him. You said yourself it's only been a year. That's true. It's not long enough to make a judgement good or bad. But the Judgment that liberals come to is that he's terrible and the reasoning is because they don't like him personally. That's absurd. You could find stories about how Bill Gates and Steve Jobs were the most miserable bastards to work for. But look at the companies they created. Successful people succeed in different ways. Some are type A personality summer type B. Some are nice some more obnoxious. Summa patient and some are quick to fly off the handle. Just like in any other line of work or any other field there's all different types. There's not one type of person that could be successful. Where he must be well spoken and nice mannered. That's simply ridiculous. Look at the success that Trump has had throughout his life. He's a good executive. That's a fact. 50 years of success back that up. Just because you don't like him or his style or his personality doesn't change that.
reply to: Hmm, maybe you should go and look up what he has accomplished. Straight from the white house itself, no biased mainstream media, fearmongering sources. Come back to me once you've done that.
Voted: I support what I have to say because I'm logical.
3 months ago
Lol. The Whitehouse is the MOST biased.
reply to: Lol. The Whitehouse is the MOST biased.
3 months ago
The Whitehouse has documents of exactly what the president is requesting, which we have the right to look at, to see what he is doing or requesting to do.

I almost confused this with another similar conversation I was having earlier. Is there such thing as talking about politics too much? Nah.
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reply to: Hmm, maybe you should go and look up what he has accomplished. Straight from the white house itself, no biased mainstream media, fearmongering sources. Come back to me once you've done that.
Voted: I support what I have to say because I'm logical.
Come back to me once you use a more relevant source than the White House and not completely ignore what I said lol
reply to: Come back to me once you use a more relevant source than the White House and not completely ignore what I said lol
3 months ago
Look at my comment to Melicious for my reply to this.
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reply to: But you see it missing the point. Your entire argument is based on the fact that you don't like him. You said yourself it's only been a year. That's true. It's not long enough to make a judgement good or bad. But the Judgment
Voted: I support what I have to say because I'm logical.
Part of it is that yes.. I'm not a fan of him as a person. Though he isn't making a good first impression with his job performance either. Still too early yes but I don't like the look of it.
reply to: But you see it missing the point. Your entire argument is based on the fact that you don't like him. You said yourself it's only been a year. That's true. It's not long enough to make a judgement good or bad. But the Judgment
3 months ago
The most corrupt, biased Presidency ever.
Many US families won't allow their small children watch Trump because of his moral decadence. OK...let's look at his life. Let' look at his draft dogding and bone spurs, his con scehemes (Trump U), his bankruptcies, his relationshp with Russian oligarchs and Mobster, the money laundering, the disrepect he has show service member, the payoffs to all the women in his life that rivals Hawvey Winestine, his love for WHite Supremacists and their defense, His assertions throughout the Obama presidency over the Birth certificattes, His shameless, Mochale Coehn and his pay fior access to the office, Pardonding felons then openingly praising them, and last but not least, lobbying on putting hillary on trial and he hasn;t, saying he was going to build a wall and he has not, saying he was going to cancel the TPP and he is now seemingly going to back out of it, the murder of our service men in Yemen and Nigeria under Trump who was off feasting and partying (No where to be found). Positively revolting. The past 50 years has shown himself to be a buffoon and a reality TV star. He was a Democrat not all that long ago, I wonder how you would have felt about him running for president then.
3 months ago
This is an opinion site, not a news agency.
3 months ago
Let's see... Trump has his own Bengahzi(s) which conservatives woiefully and purposely neglect:

On Oct. 4,2017 four Green Berets were killed and two more injured after their group of a dozen U.S. soldiers were ambushed while conducting a joint patrol with about 40 Nigerien soldiers in Niger while Trump feasted at Mar A Largo.

Feb 2017: U.S. Navy SEAL William "Ryan" Owens was killed, three others were wounded, and an unknown number of civilians were killed in Yemen after a covert operation that Trump approved. Where was Trump? Not in the Situation Room. He was feasting and feading his fat ass. Probably handing out with Michael Cohen, taking bribes and paying off women.

Do you conservatives have one ounce of decency? Look what Trump did and you have neglected and/or ignored it. Sickening
reply to: Let's see... Trump has his own Bengahzi(s) which conservatives woiefully and purposely neglect: On Oct. 4,2017 four Green Berets were killed and two more injured after their group of a dozen U.S. soldiers were ambushed while
3 months ago
Trump did not give a direct order to stand down, whereas Obama did. That's the difference.
reply to: Let's see... Trump has his own Bengahzi(s) which conservatives woiefully and purposely neglect: On Oct. 4,2017 four Green Berets were killed and two more injured after their group of a dozen U.S. soldiers were ambushed while
Voted: I support what I have to say because I'm logical.
Yeesh dude.. Trump can rip****in their faces and they'll still adore him
reply to: Trump did not give a direct order to stand down, whereas Obama did. That's the difference.
3 months ago
Obama as a greater man than than Trump
That is what kills Trump

He's build a cult of people like you.
I hope our lord, Jesus Christ forgives you
reply to: Obama as a greater man than than Trump That is what kills Trump He's build a cult of people like you. I hope our lord, Jesus Christ forgives you
3 months ago
Are you just saying that because you dislike him, or because you have some facts?
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reply to: Are you just saying that because you dislike him, or because you have some facts?
3 months ago
Not only are you intimidating, you're blind. I stated my comment several comments up.
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reply to: Obama as a greater man than than Trump That is what kills Trump He's build a cult of people like you. I hope our lord, Jesus Christ forgives you
Voted: I support what I have to say because I'm logical.
Jesus the socialist!!
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reply to: Jesus the socialist!!
3 months ago
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